# Peter Van Doren Vs. MS-13

**URL:** <https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/free-thoughts/peter-van-doren-vs-ms-13>

**By** Peter Van Doren, Aaron Ross Powell, Trevor Burrus

**Published:** April 27, 2018

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Peter Van Doren joins us again to discuss his time on jury duty.

Peter Van Doren joins us again to discuss his time on federal jury duty. On February 20th, 2018, Van Doren reported to the Federal District Court and was selected for jury duty. It was an MS-13 murder case involving an ongoing criminal conspiracy. We discuss conspiracy law, the nature of jury duty and the qualms of the criminal justice system.

### Further Readings/References:

[More about Peter Van Doren](https://www.cato.org/people/peter-vandoren)

Cato book [Jury Nullification](https://store.cato.org/book/jury-nullification)

[Nancy MacLean and the Lazy Jury Fallacy by Trevor Burrus](https://www.libertarianism.org/columns/nancy-maclean-lazy-jury-fallacy)

[An Essay on the Trial by Jury: Juries vs Representative Democracy by Lysander Spooner](https://www.libertarianism.org/essays/essay-trial-jury)