# The Nationalism Problem **URL:** **By** Stephanie Slade, Aaron Ross Powell, Trevor Burrus **Published:** March 27, 2020 --- Stephanie Slade joins the show to talk about her new cover story for Reason Magazine; Against the New Nationalism. Stephanie Slade joins the show to talk about her new cover story for Reason Magazine; Against the New Nationalism. Her piece starts by noting how Richard Lowry, the author of _The Case for Nationalism_, argues that there is no real difference between nationalism and patriotism. We discuss how conservative nationalists argue that we lost sight of how to be a moral people, and we need the government to get us back on track. What is nationalism? Is nationalism patriotism? Are Americans proud of their country? What is the nationalism conservatism movement? What threat does nationalism pose? ## Further Reading: [Against the New Nationalism](https://reason.com/2020/02/24/against-the-new-nationalism/), written by Stephanie Slade [The New Conservative Nationalism Is About Subverting Individual Liberty](https://reason.com/2019/07/18/the-new-conservative-nationalism-is-about-subverting-individual-liberty/), written by Stephanie Slade [The Case for Nationalism: How It Made Us Powerful, United, and Free](https://www.amazon.com/Case-Nationalism-Rich-Lowry/dp/0062839640), written by Richard Lowry New York Times [1619 Project](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html) ## Related Content: [Vice in _The Virtue of Nationalism_](https://www.libertarianism.org/columns/vice-virtue-nationalism) , written by Akiva Malamet [What’s Wrong with National Conservatism?](https://www.libertarianism.org/podcasts/free-thoughts/whats-wrong-with-national-conservatism), Free Thoughts Podcast [Why 1619 Matters in 2019](https://www.libertarianism.org/columns/why-1619-matters-2019), written by Matthew Feeney