# What's Next for Criminal Justice Reform **URL:** **By** John Pfaff, Aaron Ross Powell, Trevor Burrus **Published:** August 27, 2021 --- John Pfaff joins the show to discuss how crime and policing changed throughout the pandemic. ## Shownotes: John Pfaff describes how the pandemic lockdown helped push down many crimes, but last year saw an unprecedented spike in homicides nationwide, likely more than twice the largest previous one-year rise. The spike in homicides will surely alter the politics of reform, now and in the years ahead. Was there a COVID crime wave? Are shootings underreported or over-reported? Does having more cops reduce crime? ## Further Reading: [Locked In: The True Causes of Mass Incarceration-and How to Achieve Real Reform](https://www.amazon.com/Locked-Causes-Incarceration-Achieve-Reform/dp/0465096913), written by John Pfaff