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Cory Massimino and Trevor Burrus join the show to discuss whether or not Batman is a hero.

Landry Ayres
Senior Producer
Trevor Burrus
Research Fellow, Constitutional Studies

Trevor Burrus is a research fellow at the Cato Institute’s Center for Constitutional Studies. His research interests include constitutional law, civil and criminal law, legal and political philosophy, and legal history. His work has appeared in the Vermont Law Review, the Syracuse Law Review, and the Jurist, as well as the Washington Times, Huffington Post, and the Daily Caller. He holds a BA in Philosophy from the University of Colorado at Boulder and a JD from the University of Denver Sturm College of Law.

Cory Massimino studies philosophy at the University of Central Florida. He is a Fellow at the Center for a Stateless Society. His research focuses on virtue ethics, market process economics, and anarchist political theory. His writings have appeared in
outlets such as The Guardian, The Independent, and Playboy. Cory lives in Florida with his wife and four cats.


Christopher Nolan’s Batman operates within the state in a very strange way. Nolan believes that his trilogy of movies are actually each in their own genre. Batman Begins is a classic origin story broken down in three parts. The Dark Knight exists as a crime movie with the Joker as a terrorist who seeks chaos. The Dark Knight Rises is an epic film with a militaristic enemy.

How are the Joker and Bane different? How do the villains in Nolan’s Batman trilogy enhance the movies?